tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post8237677846176897553..comments2024-03-18T18:08:58.999+00:00Comments on Army Service Numbers 1881-1918: The King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry - 1st & 2nd BattalionsPaul Nixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comBlogger119125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-23548975727709336582023-12-30T21:58:23.063+00:002023-12-30T21:58:23.063+00:00Hello, just an enquiry about a number (@150) of KO...Hello, just an enquiry about a number (@150) of KOYLI soldiers who were captured and held as POW’s from 29 Nov 1914 until 13 Dec 1918. I cannot decipher where they were held but it seems to read Camp Sens. Was this a POW camp and is it known what was the troop /corp or unit that were captured. The details are on a soldiers record Wilfred Wright service no 8832 who enlisted, age 17 at Sheffield on 15 March 1906.<br />Any explanation of circumstances of their battle would be appreciated. Thank you and congratulations on the work that you have done with these military records. Chris Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-67192131415344998842022-11-24T20:31:12.327+00:002022-11-24T20:31:12.327+00:00Search on Ancestry/Fndmypast for men with numbers ...Search on Ancestry/Fndmypast for men with numbers close to 41549. If you find that 41550 joined on the 1st Jan 1917 than 41549 probably joined on the same day, or a day or two either side. That's the theory. Drop me a line at paul@britisharmyancestors.co.uk if you would be interested in me undertaking research on your behalf.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-63186259761088164452022-11-01T09:28:04.929+00:002022-11-01T09:28:04.929+00:00Hi - According to the medal role my gt grandad ser...Hi - According to the medal role my gt grandad served with the 6th and 7th Btn KOYLI and he is buried in Bertincoutt Cemetary in France. Thomas William Simpson 41549 was killed on 30/03/1917. He is one of two soldiers from his regiment killed on this day in 1917 in this cemetary. I have found his pension card and a few other bits but nothing that details when he may have joined up. Is there a way I can determine where and when he joined up so I can maybe track down where he was from the regimental diaries etc.. Thankyou<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17666207221566057096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-50192069590953656572022-06-20T14:33:57.389+01:002022-06-20T14:33:57.389+01:00@Katrina. No, not possible if a service record or ...@Katrina. No, not possible if a service record or pension card does not survive. Have you checked?Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-45834299296100312162022-06-20T14:33:01.874+01:002022-06-20T14:33:01.874+01:00@Alan Cook. It will be possible to work out when h...@Alan Cook. It will be possible to work out when he enlisted, and the war diary probably survives at The National Archives and could be copied.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-21886820172622599972022-04-03T21:42:39.194+01:002022-04-03T21:42:39.194+01:00Hi Paul we have details of a soldier who we belief...Hi Paul we have details of a soldier who we belief to be my grandfather. Is there a way to cross reference a Reg No. & name to next of kin details? Katrinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880043554594109266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-89735029839215474602022-04-01T00:40:34.384+01:002022-04-01T00:40:34.384+01:00Starting the journey to find details on Private TM...Starting the journey to find details on Private TM Little or Thomas Middleton Little. SN 24728. Buried in Salonika. Believe he was 1st Battalion KOYLI. Can't find too much on his regimental career on Forces War Records apart from his death on the 8th March 1917 and possibly some orbat details.Alan cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07195817264588947669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-55350867760603279042022-03-01T18:19:38.918+00:002022-03-01T18:19:38.918+00:005152 was his original number. 203122 was the numbe...5152 was his original number. 203122 was the number that he was issued in 1917 when the Territorial Force was re-numbered. 1/4th = 1st line, 4th Battalion. 2/4th would be second line or reserve battalion. 5th Northumberland Fusiliers.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-31418556098087884602022-02-22T22:54:24.434+00:002022-02-22T22:54:24.434+00:00Hi Paul, I’m trying to understand the entry for Fr...Hi Paul, I’m trying to understand the entry for Fred Mills Winterbottom in the World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls located on Ancestry. If 203122 is his service, what is the 4 digit number – 5152? Is 1/4th Yorks L. I. the first division of the 4th battalion? Also, can you tell me what 5th North’d Fus stands for? Many Thanks, KarenKarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11832487078653239680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-57788419026387962552021-08-05T06:06:04.663+01:002021-08-05T06:06:04.663+01:00Thanks Anthony; didn't have him but he fits ni...Thanks Anthony; didn't have him but he fits nicely into the pattern I have for the regular battalions.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-42700421286592266912021-07-30T17:21:02.887+01:002021-07-30T17:21:02.887+01:00Hello Paul, to add to the database in case you don...Hello Paul, to add to the database in case you don't have him: <br /><br />8576 Pte George Graham, King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. Silver War Badge roll entry has him as having enlisted on 23 September 1904. Other sources suggest that he would have been aged about 17. Regards, Anthony <br />AHJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276213667840930253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-26542648845217361522021-07-29T14:38:47.767+01:002021-07-29T14:38:47.767+01:00David, re Slattery. This man was discharged sick i...David, re Slattery. This man was discharged sick in Jnauary 1916 and never served overseas. No age given.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-6291314105789556782021-06-19T23:19:29.483+01:002021-06-19T23:19:29.483+01:00I have an ancestor called James Carney who was a L...I have an ancestor called James Carney who was a Lance Corporal in the KOYLI, number 5951 (3/5951) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10429072083935156619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-46313704164748066862021-04-25T00:11:19.673+01:002021-04-25T00:11:19.673+01:00Hi Paul, I'm trying to find some information o...Hi Paul, I'm trying to find some information on my Great Uncle Stephen Slattery. I have very little information - although a cousin has said that she believes he was a 'bugler' in the army. He would have been very young and lived in Halifax, West Yorkshire.<br />I've found a Stephen Slattery reg. no. 4657 serving with the Yorks LI 3/4th Battalion and I wondered if it might be him? There's no age given so I wondered if there was any more information available? Thanks David.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07648521236037074293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-52372185122682176192021-01-04T19:40:52.544+00:002021-01-04T19:40:52.544+00:00I can see a 12/1271 Fred Hattersley. Is that him? ...I can see a 12/1271 Fred Hattersley. Is that him? Let me know if you need help researching him: paulcanixon@gmail.comPaul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-29201345887175028852020-12-22T22:20:27.505+00:002020-12-22T22:20:27.505+00:00Hi, I have my great grandfathers WW1 medals and de...Hi, I have my great grandfathers WW1 medals and death plaque. I know he died on 13 April 1918 and his number on his medals is 10/1271. He was in the KOYLI. I am struggling to find much about his time in the war and where his headstone is placed. I do know his body was never recovered. Could you point me in the right direction? Many thanks DawnAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06961869112242730847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-16074320260528690372020-12-07T03:41:04.333+00:002020-12-07T03:41:04.333+00:00Thanks for taking the trouble to say, 'thank y...Thanks for taking the trouble to say, 'thank you', Tim; many don't. I wish you well with your research.<br />Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-88730018082568818832020-12-06T21:17:10.290+00:002020-12-06T21:17:10.290+00:00Thanks so much for that Paul. The RE Special Brig...Thanks so much for that Paul. The RE Special Brigade information has been a massive 'unlock' for me. There was always a story in the family that Pte Goodall (Pioneer Goodall, as it turns out) was gassed by his own gas (so to speak). He was also a piece dyer by trade, so worked with chemicals before joining up. It all fits together nicely. I since discovered that he was included in the War Office casualty list for 28 June 1918 with the RE, so am going to try to drill down to see if I can unearth any inkling of his battalion / company (starting with old copies of the Ossett Observer). I'm also going to dig into various books about the Special Brigade to see what they can tell me. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.Tim Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-42718254202382799702020-11-29T06:36:54.282+00:002020-11-29T06:36:54.282+00:00Re Pte Tomlinson, he almost certainly enlisted in ...Re Pte Tomlinson, he almost certainly enlisted in Jan 1900. This post on numbering in the VSCs should help: https://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.com/2010/05/vsc-duplications.html<br /><br />Re Pte Goodall, he arrived overseas with the KOYLI and later transferred to the REs. I haven't gone into this in detail but my guess would be that he arrived overseas and immediately transferred to the REs in 1916 and that his active service in France was with the REs rather than the KOYLI. The RE numbers date to 1916 and were issued to men in the 'Special Brigade'. See this post: https://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.com/2018/09/a-special-company-1st-battalion-special.htmlPaul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-62679794939619881062020-11-28T21:23:58.528+00:002020-11-28T21:23:58.528+00:00Dear Paul.
I wonder if you could advise on two an...Dear Paul.<br /><br />I wonder if you could advise on two ancestors of mine.<br /><br />The first, Private Thomas P Tomlinson, was a member of the volunteer company 2nd Battalion KOYLI in the Boer War, with a service number of 7694. According to your list, that would put him as joining up some time between 1903 and 1904, but he was killed in South Africa in January 1902. I presume he's part of a different list - can you advise when he might have enrolled?<br /><br />The second, Private Joseph Newbould Goodall, served in KOYLI and the Royal Engineers in WW1. According to his medal card (and his British Medal, which I have), his KOYLI service number was 7850. There are no other military records of him that I can find, but I would love to find a clue of which battalion / company he served with so I could piece together even a fragment of where he went / what he saw. He lived in a village just outside Wakefield, so would have signed up there I guess. I'm also interested in the fact he served with the RE (though his medal specifies only his KOYLI number). Why might that have been, and was it common? <br /><br />BTW, thanks for everything you do with this site. It's a huge help!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09601988364871260779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-89083233739793001992020-11-03T07:18:54.381+00:002020-11-03T07:18:54.381+00:00The details are here, Shaun: https://www.cwgc.org/...The details are here, Shaun: https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/572765/H%20GUNBY/#&gid=2&pid=1<br />Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-39295833609352093842020-11-01T16:07:49.642+00:002020-11-01T16:07:49.642+00:00Hi. My great uncle, Private 29611 2nd Batallion KO...Hi. My great uncle, Private 29611 2nd Batallion KOYLI, was killed 3rd April 1917. I had the map co-ordinates where his body was found but have misplaced them. Are there any records that show where his body was found?<br />Regards.Shaunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00478821166248502049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-61930997172759286352020-06-27T05:43:49.350+01:002020-06-27T05:43:49.350+01:00Re Alfred Knott, it would be possible to work out ...Re Alfred Knott, it would be possible to work out from his number when he joined up and possibly with which unit and where he trained in the UK, possibly when he arrived overseas. His service record does not appear to survive but there is more work that could be done to research him. See the RESEARCH tab on this blog.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-12552052277517894922020-06-12T17:08:19.659+01:002020-06-12T17:08:19.659+01:00Hello Paul. I have just found your site.. My great...Hello Paul. I have just found your site.. My great uncle was in KOYLI, 2nd Battalion I believe. His service number was 42306. He was killed in action in April 1917 during the German retreat to the Hindenburg Line. As he was killed, does this mean there will be records of his service, not even the date when he joined up?tkseekshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00561210159073525272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-73349785799434611792020-06-12T17:06:04.527+01:002020-06-12T17:06:04.527+01:00Hello Paul. I have just found your site.. My great...Hello Paul. I have just found your site.. My great uncle was in KOYLI, 2nd Battalion I believe. His service number was 42306. He was killed in action in April 1917 during the German retreat to the Hindenburg Line. As he was killed, does this mean there will be records of his service, not even the date when he joined up?tkseekshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00561210159073525272noreply@blogger.com