tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post2470026108661502312..comments2024-03-18T18:08:58.999+00:00Comments on Army Service Numbers 1881-1918: Cheshire Regiment 1881-1914 - 1st & 2nd Battalions -Paul Nixonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-13036704285706555372023-11-14T09:04:43.111+00:002023-11-14T09:04:43.111+00:00My GGF Pte William Henry Ballin Cookson, 12254 is ...My GGF Pte William Henry Ballin Cookson, 12254 is buried in Le Treport. Was admitted to no3 General Hospital 5/5/1915. Not sure which battle he was injured or took part in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-79596909659863213602021-11-25T20:21:37.383+00:002021-11-25T20:21:37.383+00:00PTE JAMES TOWNLEY
Born - 28 May 1893, Stockport, C...PTE JAMES TOWNLEY<br />Born - 28 May 1893, Stockport, Cheshire<br />Died - 28 April 1917, Oppy/Gavrelle Line, Battle of Gavrelle, France<br /><br />• 5th Battalion Cheshire Regiment<br />• Service No: 1357<br />• Joined on 10/11/1910 at Cheadle<br />• Age 17<br />[CANARVEN] : 1912<br />[ABERGAVENNY] : 11/05/13 - 25/05/13<br />[RHYL CAMP] : 31/05/14 - 14/06/14<br />British Expeditionary Force [France] : 14/02/15 - 04/11/15<br />WOUNDED : Gun Shot Wound --HEAD-- @ YPRES : 19/07/15<br />At Home : 05/11/15 - 09/11/15<br />Total Services Towards Engagement In Territorial Force : 5 Years<br />• Royal Marine Light Infantry, 1st Royal Marines Battalion, Royal Naval Chatham Division<br />• Service No: CH/1514(S)<br />• Age: 24<br />• Joined 1st Royal Marines Battalion on 25/11/15<br />Enlisted on 26/2/16 Age 22 years 8 months ; Embarked RM Brigade 28/6/16 ;<br />Draft for BEF 25/9/16, joined 4th Entrenching Battalion on 10/11/16,<br /><br />Died: 28/04/1917, Battle of Gavrelle, Oppy/Gavrelle Line, Oppy, Pas-de-Calais, France<br />Memorial: Arras Memorial (MR 20)<br />Arras, Department du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France<br />RyanUKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564682322529721847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-29555686552786058182020-11-11T12:53:21.857+00:002020-11-11T12:53:21.857+00:00Paul, thankyou for explaining Harry's details....Paul, thankyou for explaining Harry's details. I can now get the replacement medals that he would have been entitled to. If I unearth any photos of Harry from family I will send it to your sister website. Thanks again, Steve.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11832040656965647060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-53755370540107865782020-11-11T08:14:12.748+00:002020-11-11T08:14:12.748+00:00Steve, he was certainly overseas early enough to h...Steve, he was certainly overseas early enough to have been under fire between the qualifying dates of 5th August and 22nd November 1914. He didn't claim the clasp and roses through official sources but not every man did - and for that matter he could have picked up copies at a local tailor's shop. It's a good bet that he was under fire and therefore he would have been entitled to the clasp and roses. He was discharged no longer physically fit for service on the 21st October 1915.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-29674547767250674492020-11-10T16:04:11.244+00:002020-11-10T16:04:11.244+00:00Hi Paul, great information on here, thankyou for h...Hi Paul, great information on here, thankyou for helping so many relatives.<br />I am trying to replace my grt grandad's medals, I know he got the 1914 star but I'm trying to find out if he qualified for the bar. He is Harry Whitworth 8346 Cheshire regiment could you shed some light or point me in the right direction of understanding his medal index card. Thanks for your time. SteveAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11832040656965647060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-61235323763403223622020-10-27T05:19:39.821+00:002020-10-27T05:19:39.821+00:00Stuart, re 28120 Arthur Bowen you could post his p...Stuart, re 28120 Arthur Bowen you could post his photo and details on my British Army Ancestors website: https://britisharmyancestors.co.uk/search-result/?q=28120+bowenPaul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-10701841102260596642020-10-27T05:16:42.694+00:002020-10-27T05:16:42.694+00:00Hello Richard
You can confirm the regiment he was...Hello Richard<br /><br />You can confirm the regiment he was in by entering the number/s and his name into my British Army Ancestors website: https://britisharmyancestors.co.uk/. Two numbers would normally indicate service with two separate regiments or battalions. Men of the Territorial Force were issued with a second five or six-digit number in early 1917, but by the looks of things your man does not fall into this category.<br /><br />Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-40780239681162829792020-10-14T19:20:19.858+01:002020-10-14T19:20:19.858+01:00Hello Paul,
I have two Service Numbers for my Gt ...Hello Paul,<br /><br />I have two Service Numbers for my Gt Grandfather they are 30937 and 3/44054. We think he was in the Cheshires, why would he have two numbers, previous or disjointed service perhaps ?<br /><br />Regards,<br />Richard.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12164085196370814418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-49725086939045409022020-10-05T23:36:01.921+01:002020-10-05T23:36:01.921+01:00I have a photograph of my Great Grandfather who wa...I have a photograph of my Great Grandfather who was <br /><br />Arthur BOWEN<br />Rank: Private<br />Number: 28120<br />Unit: 2nd Battalion CHESHIRE REGIMENT<br />Date of Death: 3 October 1915<br />Age: 35<br />Cemetery: Loos Memorial, Pas de Calais, France<br /> <br />Arthur had been a regular soldier for 8 or 9 years, serving with the Royal Field Artillery. He was still a reservist and was mobilised when war was declared in August 1914. He served again with the RFA, (service number 36924), but probably only until December 1914 when the Cheshires returned from India.<br /><br />Is this information and the photograph useful to anybody and if so can you suggest where I could post it (and maybe also look for more information)?<br />Stuartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-57615493484251082442020-06-27T05:23:06.195+01:002020-06-27T05:23:06.195+01:00David, he was presumably posted to the 1/7th Batta...David, he was presumably posted to the 1/7th Battalion which did serve overseas. Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-25659040249759490672020-06-03T15:12:59.804+01:002020-06-03T15:12:59.804+01:00Hi Paul. I am looking into my great grandfather...Hi Paul. I am looking into my great grandfather's war record and we have two Regimental numbers for him; 1691 which was recorded in 1915 and then later 290210. We know he served at the Somme however we can't be sure which battalion yet. We know he signed up in 1914 and was enlisted in the 2/7th Battalion of the Cheshire Regiment however this battalion didn't see overseas service. Could the change in numbers give us an indication of which battalion he transferred to, presumably in 1916 at the time of conscription? His name was Arthur Lomas. <br /><br />Many thanks,<br /><br />David DMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02717257155446977813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-31674322538501924962020-04-15T06:25:04.540+01:002020-04-15T06:25:04.540+01:00Mike McG. If your great grandfather was serving wi...Mike McG. If your great grandfather was serving with the 2nd Bn overseas between 1887-89 he could have taken part in the Burma Campaign and if he did, he would have earned a medal. Medal rolls are in WO 100 at The National Archives. Some of these are ion Ancestry but I don't believe this medal roll is. As for books, have a look on the Naval & Military Press website.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-80709173292265442922020-03-16T21:53:49.547+00:002020-03-16T21:53:49.547+00:00Further to my post of 10th Feb 2020. Would my grea...Further to my post of 10th Feb 2020. Would my great grandfather have earned a medal for his overseas service? How would I find out? Also do you know of any sources on the operations of the 1st Battalion in Burma during the 1880’s?Mike McGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543136233904016848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-14042504394238636752020-02-29T06:13:51.702+00:002020-02-29T06:13:51.702+00:00Thanks for that, Mike, I suspect he enlisted for 7...Thanks for that, Mike, I suspect he enlisted for 7&5, which would tie in with his colour service ending in 1891. He would then have been a reservist until 1896 and was probably discharged on the 21st Feb 1896 having served exactly 12 years.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-61692079257862842502020-02-10T20:52:13.044+00:002020-02-10T20:52:13.044+00:00My great grandfather Robert William McGinley joine...My great grandfather Robert William McGinley joined the Cheshire Regiment on 22/02/1884. His regimental number was 1000. He was in the !st Battalion and served overseas in the Med., Egypt, The Andaman Islands, Burmah and India. His regular service ended in 1891 and joined the volunteer reserve in Birkenhead until 1896. Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-52314106908391999772019-11-25T07:31:35.671+00:002019-11-25T07:31:35.671+00:007807550 is a seven-digit number and so that points...7807550 is a seven-digit number and so that points to an army number issued from 1920. The MoD will be the place to enquire: https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records<br />Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-48423193612647682682019-11-10T03:39:06.972+00:002019-11-10T03:39:06.972+00:00Paul, someone asked me for help. William Norman, C...Paul, someone asked me for help. William Norman, Cheshire Regt. 7807550. What does that number point to for aor? I didn’t see it in the list. Thanks!!Btm5811https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745444597757058455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-85346527508267857492019-07-30T19:15:52.577+01:002019-07-30T19:15:52.577+01:00My guess is that The medal to 34116 John Hopkins i...My guess is that The medal to 34116 John Hopkins is a replacement for his own medal, possibly lost. The MoD should have your grandfather’s papers for WW2 which may contain information about his Great War service.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-2239513429363205332019-07-30T15:22:20.951+01:002019-07-30T15:22:20.951+01:00Hi, Am researching my grandfather, Harold Brierley...Hi, Am researching my grandfather, Harold Brierley DOB: 5/8/1900, believed to be in the Cheshire Regiment army number: 81721. He was from Oldham, Lancs. Family legend was that he lied about his age to enlist and served in both World Wars. I can find nothing on him for WW2. <br />We have his campaign medals: <br />British War medal<br />Victory medal<br /><br />These are both listed on his medal records, however, the British Medal has another persons name on it. It looks like 'J. Hopkins, Lancs Reg 3411'<br /><br />Harold was also injured in France, WW2 and sent back to a hospital in England, my father and his mother, Harold's wife told me about visiting him there, but I again can find no record, nor of any pension records.<br /><br />What can you suggest please?<br /><br />Many thanks.<br /><br />Janet Benjafield Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09738098325675973539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-572119502247483752019-04-28T15:13:43.358+01:002019-04-28T15:13:43.358+01:00No, I am afraid I don't known the reason for t...No, I am afraid I don't known the reason for that, Ken.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-84276754537986033942019-04-05T18:09:08.582+01:002019-04-05T18:09:08.582+01:00Hello Paul,
A family relative, Arthur Gerrard, jo...Hello Paul,<br /><br />A family relative, Arthur Gerrard, joined the Cheshire Regiment on 11 Oct 1906 and was issued service number 8293. This seems out of kilter by some months with your published list. Any thoughts why this might be? He had 2 other service numbers (15301 and 268102)which seems consistent with new service numbers being issued to men joining a different battalion of the same regiment. After being wounded in 1915 with 2nd Btn, he joined 10th (Service) Btn in Nov 1916 and then, after only a matter of weeks, 6th Btn.Ken Forshawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-57046099281530648542019-01-09T10:02:41.947+00:002019-01-09T10:02:41.947+00:00Yes, that would work, PW. Almost certainly a Terri...Yes, that would work, PW. Almost certainly a Territorial and no, the battalion prefixes were inconsistently used. They appear on some records but are absent on others. Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-54430847040679507422019-01-06T13:50:41.207+00:002019-01-06T13:50:41.207+00:00Dear Paul,
My Great Uncle Joseph Price of the Ches...Dear Paul,<br />My Great Uncle Joseph Price of the Cheshire Regt, on his WW1 Victory Medal his Regt No is 2986, which would have him joining the Regt in 1890/1, he would have only been 5 years old approximately. I surmise from this that he was Territorial as my Mum is certain he served in Gallipoli so probably in the 1/4. Would that work or did Territorial numbers start with 6/7/8 or the 1/4 prefix?<br />TIA<br />PWPWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09092408635526005581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-35103790436948518052018-11-11T04:53:55.660+00:002018-11-11T04:53:55.660+00:00Thank you for your additional comment, Jeanette. A...Thank you for your additional comment, Jeanette. As you will hopefully have seen when posting on this blog, if your request is for information about a specific individual, please contact me via the research tab. There will certainly be more to say about these men.Paul Nixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354531380984476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944079581687608453.post-21149416558763144032018-11-10T15:54:15.067+00:002018-11-10T15:54:15.067+00:00Thank you so much for this. Its interesting that h...Thank you so much for this. Its interesting that he enlisted in 1905 and would have been underage?? Maybe that is why he enlisted in the Cheshire's where no-one would have known him?<br /><br />In addition maybe you can help me with finding a service record for my uncle George Matthews 4th Btn RWF died of wounds 24 March 1918. Born Wrexham 1894. I have tried to find the records but have been told they were in the ones destroyed. I have had his medal card and next of kin letter. Is it possible that you are able to provide his full service - I believe he served for the 4 years -I am told although he was a Lance Corporal he became a Sergeant on the Field. There is no family left to fill in the missing bits. He is buried at Dernencourt at Albert and he enlisted with his older brother John (Jack). I have the war diary produced by Capt C Ellis but would really like to know when and where he fought and how he died. If you can help I would really appreciate it. Regards JeanetteAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08790779951595879072noreply@blogger.com