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27 December 2015
Lancashire Fusiliers - PoW Other Ranks 1914
The following men were all serving with the 2nd Battalion, Lancashire Fusiliers when they became prisoners of war of the Germans on or before Christmas Day 1914. There are 162 names in this list. Read more about this Prisoner of War data source on my 1914 PoWs page.
This data has been transcribed from the following sources which are now housed at the Imperial War Museum:
1. B.O.2 1/248 is a six-page typed document from The Lancashire Fusiliers Prisoners of war Regimental Care Committee. Dated 4th January 1919.
2. B.O.2 1/251 is a three-page typed document from officer i/c No 1. Infantry Records, No 3 District. Dated 2nd March 1919.
Some men appear on both lists, Typically one list will give the man's home address whilst the other will record next of kin and next of kin address.
Note the variation in regimental numbers in the list which follows. The Lancashire Fusiliers reached 9999 in November 1903 and immediately commenced a new series beginning from 1. By August 1914, numbering in the two regular battalions had reached around 2900. Knowing this information we can guess that most, if not all, of the men in the list below with numbers between 1 and 2900 enlisted between November 1903 and August 1914 whilst most of, if not all of, the men with numbers between 2900 and 9999 are pre-November 1903 enlistments and would, for the most part be men who had either re-engaged to complete 21 years with the colours or who had joined Section D of the Army Reserve at the end of their 12-year colour/reserve service.
The two Company Sergeant Majors on this list who have the numbers 5290 and 5358 both joined the regiment in 1895 and would have been well on the way to receiving their LSGC medals at the time of capture. Colour Sergeant Frederick Byford, on the other hand, had joined the regiment in June 1889 as a 14-year-old and was already in possession of medals for the Sudan and the Boer War as well as the LSGC. He would be repatriated in 1917 and would finally be discharged from the army in 1920 after over 30 years' service.
I say "most, if not all of, the men..." Bear in mind that some of the men in the list below could have been original members of the 3rd (Special Reserve) or 4th (Extra Reserve) Battalions and may have been posted as part of a draft to the 2nd Battalion. These two battalions, when formed in 1908, had picked up the numbering sequences of their militia predecessors and new recruits who joined between 1908 and 1914 would have been given numbers in the 3000/4000 range.
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2642 Private T Ainscough, 9944 Private T Ainsworth, 690 Private J Anscombe, 9189 Private W Ashton, 6746 Private F Ashworth
6924 Private Henry Ballard, 9587 Private J Banks, 2359 Private W C Barr, 9435 Pte Stephen Barrett, 2636 Private A E Batchelor, 991 Private G W Bilton, 9720 Private A Blake, 2530 Private A Blue, 1706 Sergeant Arthur H Bond, 155 Private J Bramble, 301 Private N Briggs, 2721 Private R Briggs, 1456 Private R Bunting, 614 Private H Burgess, 9096 Private J Burke, 9017 Private W Butcher, 3019 Colour-Sergeant Frederick Byford, 395 Private J Byrne
1612 Private J Callaghan,9921 Private Hugh Campbell, 1158 Corporal George Cannon, 1402 Sergeant A Carrington, 730 Private S Chance, 9630 Private J Clough, 9555 Corporal John F Clowes, 706 Private J Collins, 191 Private Joseph Collins, 2855 Private P Collins, 9806 Private John Connell, 141 Private G Cooke, 40 Pte Ernest Corbett, 2730 Private J Cox, 9183 Corporal W Crossley
57 Private E Daley, 9287 Pte Edward Daly, 9924 Private A J De Massey, 749 Private James Dennehy, 9998 Private F J Dowding, 318 Lance-Corporal J Doyle
9126 Private C Eachus, 2808 Private J Eckersley, 171 Private R Edmondson
2573 Private W E Fawley, 2522 Corporal R Fellows, 196 Private J Fenny, 2796 Private C Fenton, 2107 Private E Firth, 9709 Pte William Fitton, 9200 Private J G Fleming, 9771 Private Harry D Funnell
850 Private F Gannon, 519 Private J Gethings, 9041 Private J W Gill, 626 Private J Gorman, 250 Private A Green, 9892 Private T Grundy
68 Private F Hall, 439 Private H Hall, 2437 Private H R Hall, 2413 Private T Hall, 9667 Private D Hallam, 9253 Private B Hamer, 6840 Private J Hanlon, 618 Private E Hanson, 30 Private M E Hardman, 6267 Private J Hart, 1719 Private L Hatson, 990 Corporal H Hemsley, 9651 Pte John Henry, 886 Private J Heyes, 9915 Private B Hill, 9302 Corporal H Hilton, 9776 Private P Hines, 2841 Private J Hogan, 180 Private R Holding, 2549 Private George Holland, 1470 Private W E Hooper, 9780 Private H Horwood, 9311 Private J Howard, 2851 Private George Hurst, 682 Private R Hurst
1684 Private G Inch
156 Private A Jackson, 9411 Private P Jeffers, 157 Private T Jennings, 2799 Lance-Corporal C Johnson, 77 Private R Johnson, 377 Lance-Corporal P J Jordon
1580 Corporal P Keegan, 751 Private T Kerfoot, 9875 Private G Knight
39 Private W G Lawrence, 9136 Private W Leah, 2660 Private M Lee, 125 Private P Logan, 304 Private Thomas H Lowe, 2794 Private W L Lupton
2862 Private R G Magin, 1013 Private H Mann, 502 Pte James Markland, 351 Private G Marsden, 2837 Pte Thomas Mason, 2491 Corporal A Massey, 5290 CSM C J R Maxwell, 9477 Private M McBride, 9477 Private M McBride, 9139 Private C McCormick,
5358 CSM H McCready, 9441 Private T Melia, 9465 Private W Metcalf, 82 Private G Mottershead (above, Rochdale Observer, 31st Oct 1914), 329 Sergeant H Mowbray, 1009 Corporal J Mullen
9293 Private T Nuttall
1476 Private A E Oliver, 9882 Private G W Oliver, 19 Private C T O'Malley, 158 Private R Orrell, 2760 Private H Osborne, 9067 Private T W Owen
8800 Private J Park, 9294 Private J C Paul, 9047 Private J H Pearce, 1901 Private W J Pembery, 264 Private C Preston, 9357 Private W H Price
9092 Corporal W Riley, 9040 Private T Rogers
720 Sergeant Stanley H Sayer, 9394 Private H Sherrin, 2765 Private G Snape
9303 Private Richard Stansfield (above, Rochdale Observer, 31st Oct 1914), 6399 Private J Steel, 9157 Pte Benjamin I Steele
306 Private G Tarrant, 9680 Private J W Taylor, 9389 Corporal R Thomas, 9606 Private J Tobin, 9444 Private E Toole, 297 Private H Travers, 9881 Corporal P Tumhelty, 8765 Private R Turnbull
8656 Private R Waddington, 5526 Private J Walker, 9061 Private E Walmsley, 631 Private John Walters, 276 Private J Watthey, 553 Private S Waugh, 1435 Private H W Wheeler, 2529 Private J White, 9958 Lance-Corporal A Wilson, 2456 Private H W Wilson, 2833 Private Harry Wilson, 330 Private T Winstanley, 2579 Private C F Wooten, 2908 Private J Worsley, 2644 Lance-Corporal F L Wyatt
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27 September 2010
Lancashire Fusiliers - 6th Battalion (TF)
This post will look at numbering in the 6th Battalion, Lancashire Fusiliers, between 1908 and 1914. All numbers and enlistment / joining dates below have been gleaned from a study of attestation papers in WO 363 and WO 364. These papers are also accessible on-line via Ancestry.co.uk which is currently offering a FREE 14-day trial.
I have previously referred to the 6th Lancashire Fusiliers in an earlier post which sought ot identify those Territorial Force battalions which, when the TF was formed in 1908, continued with the same number series which had been used by their Volunteer predecessors.
For instance, when Harry Jennings Sowray attested with the 6th LF on the 1st April 1908 he was 44 years old, a serving member with the 2nd Volunteer Battlion, Lancashire Fusiliers, and a time-expired regular having served with the 1st Battalion, West Yorkshire Regiment. His 'new' 6th LF number - 4988 - was the same number he'd been given when he joined the 2nd VB LF on the 2nd April 1892. Similarly, 5314 Abraham Grindrod who signed up with the 6th LF on the 28th April 1908, had originally been given that number when he joined the 2nd VB LF on the 22nd June 1894.
As far as new recruits were concerned, numbering in April 1908 probably started at around 7670, and I base this assumption only on the known enlistment of John Hynes who was given the number 7667 when he joined the 2nd VB on the 27th March 1908 - and carried on using it when he joined the 6th Battalion (TF) shortly afterwards.
7831 joined on 13th January 1909
8166 joined on 1st February 1910
8417 joined on 23rd January 1911
8548 joined on 6th March 1912
8774 joined on 3rd February 1913
9101 joined on 13th March 1914
9143 joined on 4th August 1914
9474 joined on 3rd September 1914
10420 joined on 21st October 1914
10432 joined on 30th November 1914
10466 joined on 3rd December 1914
Interestingly, by the time the TF was re-numbered in 1917, there were around fifty 6th Battalion men still serving who had previously seen service with the 2nd Volunteer Battalion. One of these men was Harry Jennings Sowray who was given the new number 240008 and who would have been, by then, around 53 years old. Nor was he the longest serving man on the 6th Battalion books in 1917. His number suggests that there were seven Other Ranks whose service pre-dated his own.
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I have previously referred to the 6th Lancashire Fusiliers in an earlier post which sought ot identify those Territorial Force battalions which, when the TF was formed in 1908, continued with the same number series which had been used by their Volunteer predecessors.
For instance, when Harry Jennings Sowray attested with the 6th LF on the 1st April 1908 he was 44 years old, a serving member with the 2nd Volunteer Battlion, Lancashire Fusiliers, and a time-expired regular having served with the 1st Battalion, West Yorkshire Regiment. His 'new' 6th LF number - 4988 - was the same number he'd been given when he joined the 2nd VB LF on the 2nd April 1892. Similarly, 5314 Abraham Grindrod who signed up with the 6th LF on the 28th April 1908, had originally been given that number when he joined the 2nd VB LF on the 22nd June 1894.
As far as new recruits were concerned, numbering in April 1908 probably started at around 7670, and I base this assumption only on the known enlistment of John Hynes who was given the number 7667 when he joined the 2nd VB on the 27th March 1908 - and carried on using it when he joined the 6th Battalion (TF) shortly afterwards.
7831 joined on 13th January 1909
8166 joined on 1st February 1910
8417 joined on 23rd January 1911
8548 joined on 6th March 1912
8774 joined on 3rd February 1913
9101 joined on 13th March 1914
9143 joined on 4th August 1914
9474 joined on 3rd September 1914
10420 joined on 21st October 1914
10432 joined on 30th November 1914
10466 joined on 3rd December 1914
Interestingly, by the time the TF was re-numbered in 1917, there were around fifty 6th Battalion men still serving who had previously seen service with the 2nd Volunteer Battalion. One of these men was Harry Jennings Sowray who was given the new number 240008 and who would have been, by then, around 53 years old. Nor was he the longest serving man on the 6th Battalion books in 1917. His number suggests that there were seven Other Ranks whose service pre-dated his own.
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27 July 2009
Lancashire Fusiliers - Regular Battalions

This post will look at army service numbers issued to men joining the regular battalions - principally the 1st and 2nd Battalions - of the Lancashire Fusiliers between July 1881 (when the regiment was formed) and February 1914. The regiment was formed out of the old 20th Regiment of Foot (Lancashire Fusiliers) and up until April 1898 comprised two regular battalions, the 1st and 2nd. However, two more regular battalions, the 3rd and 4th, were formed in 1898 and 1900 respectively and I'll deal with these as we come to them.
There are over 48,000 Lancashire Fusiliers service and pension records (for this regiment - and its
antecedents) in various War Office series held at the National Archives.
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Pay-Per-View credits to actually view the records. Some of these records
can also be viewed on-line on Ancestry although
Findmypast has by far the most comprehensive service record collection.
Use the
regimental numbers and dates on which these were issued, below, to determine
parameters for when your own Lancashire Fusiliers ancestor would have joined
up. Note though that these numbers are only for regular enlistments. Special
Reserve and Territorial Force battalions operated completely separate
regimental number sequences.
112 joined on 26th July 1881
425 joined on 29th April 1882
571 joined on 22nd June 1883
766 joined on 28th May 1884
1122 joined on 6th July 1885
1739 joined on 8th June 1886
2126 joined on 11th February 1887
2538 joined on 23rd February 1888
2877 joined on 12th January 1889
3321 joined on 2nd July 1890
3362 joined on 14th April 1891
4048 joined on 23rd April 1892
4510 joined on 8th August 1893
4718 joined on 18th January 1894
5117 joined on 15th January 1895
5464 joined on 4th June 1896
5818 joined on 7th September 1897
5953 joined on 18th March 1898
A 3rd regular battalion was raised on 6th April 1898 in Ireland and would be disbanded in 1906. The same number series as that used for men joining the 1st and 2nd Battalions, was used for the newly formed 3rd Battalion.
6722 joined on 27th January 1899
A 4th regular battalion was raised on 3rd February 1900 in England and would be disbanded in 1906. The same number series as that used for men joining the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Battalions, was used for the newly formed 4th Battalion.
7839 joined on 9th May 1900
8462 joined on 7th May 1901
9068 joined on 19th August 1902
9381 joined on 21st January 1903
The addition of two regular battalions had had a dramatic effect on recruitment into the Lancashire Fusiliers. Whereas in the three years prior to the formation of the 3rd Battalion it had taken the regiment over three years to recruit a thousand men, in the four years between January 1899 and January 1903 (and with Britain at war with the Boers) the regiment recruited 2,600 men. In 1903, with the number series fast approaching the limit of 9,999, the regiment applied to the Adjutant-General to commence a new number series. Approval was duly given and before the year was out, the Lancashire Fusiliers had started numbering from 1 again.
378 joined on 3rd August 1904
559 joined on 20th April 1905
1035 joined on 23rd January 1906
1305 joined on 19th August 1907
1486 joined on 11th May 1908
1793 joined on 2nd January 1909
2015 joined on 8th February 1910
2292 joined on 12th January 1911
2652 joined on 16th September 1912
2847 joined on 8th October 1913
2911 joined on 16th February 1914
The famous photograph reproduced on this post shows men of the 1st Battalion, Lancashire Fusiliers in a communication trench near Beaumont Hamel, possibly on 1st July 1916.
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Further Reading

History of the XX Regiment 1688-1888
21 August 2008
Regimental numbering series
Section XXII of the Queen's Regulations for the Army 1895 reads as follows:
31. The regimental series of numbers will commence with 1. The numbers will be given in sequence, according to the date of application. When the series approaches 9999, application should be made to the Adjutant-General in sufficient time to obtain authority to commence a new series. In the Royal Artillery the series will extend to 99,999, in the Royal Engineers to 29,999, and in the Army Service Corps and Medical Staff Corps to 19,999.
Fast forward nine years to the King's Regulations for the Army 1904 (Provisional) and paragraph 2144 reads:
The regimental series of numbers will commence with 1. The numbers will be given in sequence, according to the date of application. The series will extend to 49,999 in the Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery, and to 49,999 in the Royal Garrison Artillery; to 29,999 in the Royal Engineers and Army Service Corps; to 19,999 in each regiment of foot guards, infantry of the line, and Royal Army Medical Corps; and to 9,999 in cavalry regiments and in corps not named above. When these numbers have been reached, a new series will be commenced.
Concerning ourselves just with infantry regiments for now, the point about commencing a new series of numbers is important. In the example I gave a couple of days ago with numbering in the regular battalions of The Essex Regiment, I showed that there was a continual uninterrupted sequence which had reached number 9242 by July 1908 and had reached the 10,000s by 1914. For the most part, recruiting in infantry regiments was a desperately slow business but there are a number of regiments which, having reached 9999, started a new series of numbers and I'm going to note those regiments here.
The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
By August 1907 this regiment had passed the 9999 mark and was numbering in the 10500s. By 1908 however, a new series had commenced, number 2 being issued on 16th June that year.
I am at a loss to explain why this regiment started re-numbering from 1 in 1908. Under existing King's Regulations it should have continued numbering up to 19,999. Possibly the decision to start afresh had something to do with the newly created Territorial Force battalions starting their numbering series from 1 (albeit in April that year). I don't know the answer but I'd like to know.
The Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Had reached 9981 by September 10th 1904 and by 1905 was on a new series of numbers. Number 209 was issued on 2nd May 1905.
The Gordon Highlanders
Like the A&S Highlanders, men in the two regular battalions of this regiment were already numbering in the 10,000s when they commenced a new series. On 27th April 1908, number 10717 was issued to a new Gordon Highlanders recruit but by March 2nd 1909 a new series was already well under way with number 274 issued on this date.
The King's Royal Rifle Corps
Reached number 9981 by March 1897 and two months later, on May 14th, was already well into a new series of numbers with number 274 issued on this date.
The Lancashire Fusiliers
Had reached 9504 by March 12th 1903 and on September 8th 1904 issued number 445 of a new number series.
The Manchester Regiment
Started a new number series in 1904. Number 9992 was issued on 8th June and on July 8th, number 39 was issued to a new recruit.
The Northumberland Fusiliers
Started re-numbering in 1903. Number 9998 was issued on December 1st and 9999 the following day. It was at this point that the regiment commenced a new numbering series from 1 and by April 6th 1904 numbering had already reached 165.
The Rifle Brigade
Note, this regiment did not start numbering from 1 in 1881 but continued with the numbering sequence already in place. By 18th November 1881 the Rifle Brigade had reached number 5043 and four years later by 12th January 1889 it had reached 9919. Number 12 of a new number series was issued on 13th February 1889. By August 1903, this regiment (which had four regular battalions) was approaching 9999 (number 9932 was issued on 15th August) and applied to commence a new series. Number 27 was issued to a Rifle Brigade recruit on 7th January 1904.
The Royal Warwickshire Regiment
Reached 9968 by February 1904. Number 108 in a new series of numbers had been issued by June that year.
Note, the above refers to infantry regiments only. I will deal with the Guards regiments in future posts.
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31. The regimental series of numbers will commence with 1. The numbers will be given in sequence, according to the date of application. When the series approaches 9999, application should be made to the Adjutant-General in sufficient time to obtain authority to commence a new series. In the Royal Artillery the series will extend to 99,999, in the Royal Engineers to 29,999, and in the Army Service Corps and Medical Staff Corps to 19,999.
Fast forward nine years to the King's Regulations for the Army 1904 (Provisional) and paragraph 2144 reads:
The regimental series of numbers will commence with 1. The numbers will be given in sequence, according to the date of application. The series will extend to 49,999 in the Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery, and to 49,999 in the Royal Garrison Artillery; to 29,999 in the Royal Engineers and Army Service Corps; to 19,999 in each regiment of foot guards, infantry of the line, and Royal Army Medical Corps; and to 9,999 in cavalry regiments and in corps not named above. When these numbers have been reached, a new series will be commenced.
Concerning ourselves just with infantry regiments for now, the point about commencing a new series of numbers is important. In the example I gave a couple of days ago with numbering in the regular battalions of The Essex Regiment, I showed that there was a continual uninterrupted sequence which had reached number 9242 by July 1908 and had reached the 10,000s by 1914. For the most part, recruiting in infantry regiments was a desperately slow business but there are a number of regiments which, having reached 9999, started a new series of numbers and I'm going to note those regiments here.
The Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
By August 1907 this regiment had passed the 9999 mark and was numbering in the 10500s. By 1908 however, a new series had commenced, number 2 being issued on 16th June that year.
I am at a loss to explain why this regiment started re-numbering from 1 in 1908. Under existing King's Regulations it should have continued numbering up to 19,999. Possibly the decision to start afresh had something to do with the newly created Territorial Force battalions starting their numbering series from 1 (albeit in April that year). I don't know the answer but I'd like to know.
The Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Had reached 9981 by September 10th 1904 and by 1905 was on a new series of numbers. Number 209 was issued on 2nd May 1905.
The Gordon Highlanders
Like the A&S Highlanders, men in the two regular battalions of this regiment were already numbering in the 10,000s when they commenced a new series. On 27th April 1908, number 10717 was issued to a new Gordon Highlanders recruit but by March 2nd 1909 a new series was already well under way with number 274 issued on this date.
The King's Royal Rifle Corps
Reached number 9981 by March 1897 and two months later, on May 14th, was already well into a new series of numbers with number 274 issued on this date.
The Lancashire Fusiliers
Had reached 9504 by March 12th 1903 and on September 8th 1904 issued number 445 of a new number series.
The Manchester Regiment
Started a new number series in 1904. Number 9992 was issued on 8th June and on July 8th, number 39 was issued to a new recruit.
The Northumberland Fusiliers
Started re-numbering in 1903. Number 9998 was issued on December 1st and 9999 the following day. It was at this point that the regiment commenced a new numbering series from 1 and by April 6th 1904 numbering had already reached 165.
The Rifle Brigade
Note, this regiment did not start numbering from 1 in 1881 but continued with the numbering sequence already in place. By 18th November 1881 the Rifle Brigade had reached number 5043 and four years later by 12th January 1889 it had reached 9919. Number 12 of a new number series was issued on 13th February 1889. By August 1903, this regiment (which had four regular battalions) was approaching 9999 (number 9932 was issued on 15th August) and applied to commence a new series. Number 27 was issued to a Rifle Brigade recruit on 7th January 1904.
The Royal Warwickshire Regiment
Reached 9968 by February 1904. Number 108 in a new series of numbers had been issued by June that year.
Note, the above refers to infantry regiments only. I will deal with the Guards regiments in future posts.
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