Showing posts with label The Queen's. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Queen's. Show all posts

29 July 2009

Queen's (Royal West Surrey) Regiment - 1st & 2nd Battalions


This post will look at army service numbers and the dates on which these were issued to men joining the regular (1st and 2nd) Battalions of the Queen's Royal West Surrey Regiment. The period covered in this post is July 1881 to July 1914.

The Queen's (Royal West Surrey) Regiment was formed on 1st July 1881 out of the old 2nd (The Queen's Royal) Regiment of Foot. What follows should be considered a snapshot of army service numbers and joining dates for Queen's regulars - one date and one number per year from 1881 until 1914. Service records for all of the numbers listed below, survive in WO 363 (Burnt Documents) and WO 364 (Pensions) in the National Archives and can also be viewed on-line via the Ancestry.co.uk website.

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Here are the Queen's (Royal West Surrey) regimental numbers:

157 joined on 1st December 1881
283 joined on 27th February 1882
413 joined on 17th February 1883
940 joined on 5th July 1884
1266 joined on 22nd June 1885
1724 joined on 19th August 1886
1934 joined on 28th July 1887
2214 joined on 24th January 1888
2639 joined on 20th February 1889
2926 joined on 25th February 1890
3451 joined on 19th February 1891
3795 joined on 1st February 1892
4258 joined on 10th August 1893
4447 joined on 25th June 1894
4722 joined on 10th January 1895
4994 joined on 15th June 1896
5307 joined on 10th May 1897
5669 joined on 8th June 1898
6120 joined on 12th October 1899
6440 joined on 26th April 1900
6833 joined on 18th July 1901
7132 joined on 5th June 1902
7707 joined on 6th January 1903
8001 joined on 21st January 1904
8566 joined on 4th September 1905
8823 joined on 7th March 1906
9019 joined on 5th March 1907
9439 joined on 8th September 1908
9505 joined on 27th January 1909
9778 joined on 11th October 1910
9822 joined on 12th January 1911
10102 joined on 5th February 1912
10330 joined on 23rd January 1913
10641 joined on 27th July 1914

When Britain went to war with Germany a week later, the number series above was continued for men enlisting with the Queen's under regular enlistment terms of service. Recruits to the service battalions, joining up for war-time service only, were given numbers from a new series which began with the number 1 and was prefixed with the letter G/.

The L/ prefix - which appears to have been inconsistently used for regular enlistments up until August 1914, continued to be used (inconsistently) for men enlisting for regular service from August 1914.


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From The Naval & Military Press:



History of The Queen's (Royal West Surrey) Regiment in the Great War

Despite the fact that the book gets off to the worst possible start by placing the brackets on the cover in the wrong place - it's Queen's (Royal West Surrey) Regiment , not Queen's Royal (West Surrey) Regiment - this is good account of the regiment during the First World War. Click on the image above to read the Naval & Military Press blurb.

10 January 2009

24th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (The Queen's)


The 24th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (The Queen's) had its origins in the 4th Volunteer Battalion, The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment).

Here are some sample army service numbers and corresponding joining dates for the 24th Londons:

3 joined on 1st April 1908
914 joined on 19th February 1909
1119 joined on 24th March 1910
1200 joined on 13th February 1911
1348 joined on 18th June 1912
1460 joined on 6th March 1913
1737 joined on 8th April 1914
1888 joined on 6th August 1914
2588 joined on 4th September 1914
3190 joined on 19th October 1914
3272 joined on 12th November 1914
3315 joined on 7th December 1914
3339 joined on 1st January 1915
3378 joined on 17th February 1915
3395 joined on 12th March 1915
3417 joined on 9th April 1915
3722 joined on 3rd May 1915
4121 joined on 1st June 1915
4476 joined on 6th July 1915
4678 joined on 3rd August 1915
4842 joined on 6th September 1915
4920 joined on 8th October 1915
5174 joined on 22nd November 1915
5252 joined on 29th December 1915
5329 joined on 29th February 1916
5349 joined on 4th March 1916
5649 joined on 8th April 1916
5919 joined on 3rd June 1916
6619 joined on 3rd July 1916
6777 joined on 1st August 1916

When the Territorial Force was re-numbered in 1917, the 24th Londons were allocated six digit numbers within the range 720001 to 740000. See my post on six digit number anomalies in the 24th Londons Regiment.

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Read my other posts on numbering in the London Regiment battalions:

City of London Battalions

1st (City of London) Battalion (Royal Fusiliers)
2nd (City of London) Battalion (Royal Fusiliers)
3rd (City of London) Battalion (Royal Fusiliers)
4th (City of London) Battalion (Royal Fusiliers)
5th (City of London) Battalion (Rifle Brigade)
6th (City of London) Battalion (Rifles)
7th (City of London) Battalion
8th (City of London) Battalion (Post Office Rifles)

County of London Battalions

9th (County of London) Battalion (Queen Victoria's Rifles)
10th County of London) Battalion (Hackney) [Originally Paddington Rifles]
11th (County of London) Battalion (Finsbury Rifles)
12th (County of London) Battalion (The Rangers)
13th (County of London) Battalion (Kensington)
14th (County of London) Battalion (London Scottish)
15th (County of London) Battalion (Prince of Wales's Own Civil Service Rifles)
16th (County of London) Battalion (Queen's Westminster Rifles)
17th (County of London) Battalion (Poplar & Stepney Rifles)
18th (County of London) Battalion (London Irish Rifles)
19th (County of London) Battalion (St Pancras)
20th (County of London) Battalion (Blackheath & Woolwich)
21st (County of London) Battalion (First Surrey Rifles)
22nd (County of London) Battalion (The Queen's)
23rd (County of London) Battalion
25th (County of London) Cyclist Battalion
28th (County of London) Battalion (Artists Rifles)

9 January 2009

22nd (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (The Queen's)


The 22nd (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (The Queen's), had its origins in the 3rd Volunteer Battalion, The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment). "The Battalion received its Colours on 19th June 1909 at Windsor Castle from HM King Edward VII. These were the only Colours which the Battalion held, and were quite distinct from those of the two ‘County’ Battalions of the Regiment." [Information and photo from The Queen's Royal Surrey Regiment website.]

Here are some sample army service numbers and corresponding joining dates for the 22nd Londons.

150 joined on 2nd April 1908
606 joined on 11th February 1909
864 joined on 6th October 1910
901 joined on 21st February 1911
1088 joined on 30th April 1912
1176 joined on 21st January 1913
1415 joined on 4th February 1914
1552 joined on 3rd August 1914
2049 joined on 4th September 1914
2699 joined on 19th October 1914
2855 joined on 26th November 1914
2870 joined on 3rd December 1914
2895 joined on 13th January 1915
2996 joined on 18th February 1915
3011 joined on 18th March 1915
3038 joined on 6th April 1915
3652 joined on 11th May 1915
3923 joined on 25th June 1915
3949 joined on 3rd July 1915
4043 joined on 22nd August 1915
4057 joined on 9th October 1915
4064 joined on 2nd November 1915
4091 joined on 10th December 1915
4158 joined on 2nd March 1916
4941 joined on 29th May 1916
5165 joined on 16th June 1916
5337 joined on 24th July 1916
6408 joined on 12th October 1916

My data for this battalion is a little thin from March 1916 onwards; also note the huge leap of 800 digits between March and May 1916 above, and 900 digits between July and October 1916.

When the Territorial Force was re-numbered in 1917, the 22nd Londons were allocated six digit numbers within the range 680001 to 700000.

Sergeant Jack Harvey, pictured above, won the Victoria Cross whilst serving with the 22nd London Regiment. His original number was 2857, indicating that he joined the battalion on the 26th November 1914. Later re-numbered 681139, he was awarded the VC for "most conspicuous bravery and disregard of personal danger in attack" on 2nd September 1918.

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Read my other posts on numbering in the London Regiment battalions:

City of London Battalions

1st (City of London) Battalion (Royal Fusiliers)
2nd (City of London) Battalion (Royal Fusiliers)
3rd (City of London) Battalion (Royal Fusiliers)
4th (City of London) Battalion (Royal Fusiliers)
5th (City of London) Battalion (Rifle Brigade)
6th (City of London) Battalion (Rifles)
7th (City of London) Battalion
8th (City of London) Battalion (Post Office Rifles)

County of London Battalions

9th (County of London) Battalion (Queen Victoria's Rifles)
10th County of London) Battalion (Hackney) [Originally Paddington Rifles]
11th (County of London) Battalion (Finsbury Rifles)
12th (County of London) Battalion (The Rangers)
13th (County of London) Battalion (Kensington)
14th (County of London) Battalion (London Scottish)
15th (County of London) Battalion (Prince of Wales's Own Civil Service Rifles)
16th (County of London) Battalion (Queen's Westminster Rifles)
17th (County of London) Battalion (Poplar & Stepney Rifles)
18th (County of London) Battalion (London Irish Rifles)
19th (County of London) Battalion (St Pancras)
20th (County of London) Battalion (Blackheath & Woolwich)
21st (County of London) Battalion (First Surrey Rifles)
23rd (County of London) Battalion
24th (County of London) Battalion (The Queen's)
25th (County of London) Cyclist Battalion
28th (County of London) Battalion (Artists Rifles)

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