31 March 2009

The Lincolnshire Regiment - 3rd (Special Reserve) Battalion

Prior to the creation of the Special Reserve in 1908, the Lincolnshire Regiment had two militia battalions, the 3rd and 4th. The 3rd Battalion was converted into the 3rd (Special) Reserve Battalion and the 4th Battalion was disbanded.

Here are some army service numbers and corresponding joining dates for the 3rd Special Reserve Battalion, The Lincolnshire Regiment, (which continued with the numbering system previously used by the 3rd Militia Battalion).

6611 joined on 19th December 1908
6665 joined on 4th January 1909
6932 joined on 13th June 1910
7098 joined on 12th July 1911
7379 joined on 27th November 1912
7445 joined on 22nd March 1913
7534 joined on 16th April 1914
7679 joined on 8th August 1914
8338 joined on 1st September 1914
9353 joined on 1st October 1914

9474 is currently the last number on my database for the 3rd Lincolnshire Regiment, and this man joined on 29th October 1914.

Also see my other posts regarding the Lincolnshire Regiment:

The 1st & 2nd Battalions, The Lincolnshire Regiment
The 4th Battalion, The Lincolnshire Regiment
The 5th Battalion, The Lincolnshire Regiment
The Lincolnshire Regiment - Service Battalions
The Lincolnshire Regiment - 10th Battalion - Grimsby Chums
Donald Banks - A Lincolnshire Terrier

And also:

The Lincolnshire Yeomanry

View Lincolnshire Regiment service records, pension records and medal index cards on-line via the Ancestry.co.uk website.

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15 comments:

jaynie said...

hi my name is jayne breese iam researching my ancesters my great great grandad joseph welch was in the kings royal rifles and jioned in winchester in sep 1914. does anyone have any in fo on this soldier he was from stourbridge. kind regards jayne breese

Paul Nixon said...

Jayne

I could only see a medal card to one Joseph Welch, KRRC and that man's number was R/15716 which indicates a joining date of September 1915. Was Joseph his only Christian name?

Paul Nixon

Anonymous said...

Hi there,

I was wondering if you may have further info on my Great Great Grandfather, who was:

Company Sergeant Major James William Frederick Wade DCM 3/8434, 3rd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt.

Likewise any of his siblings/sons

2nd Lt Samuel Shorten Arthur Wade 2nd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. (Died at Kemmel 1914 - Le Touret Memorial)

Private Robert Samuel Wade 13449, 2nd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. (Died at Battle of Polygon Wood 1917 - Bridge House Cemetery)

Private Walter James Wade 9446, Army Pay Corps/Lincolnshire Regt. (Discharged 9/8/1914)

Acting Company Sergeant Major William Augustus Wade 7597, 1st Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. (Died of wounds 1914 Mons? - Buried Bethune Town Cemetery)

Drummer Boy Joseph Michael Vincent Wade, 3rd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. (Discharged 2nd Bn, Kurseong, India 11/04/1925)

Samuel or Thomas Wade (no further info)

I have checked CWGC, BRITISHWARGRAVES.co.uk and have some sevice, pension and medal card info, and Lincolnshire Regiment 1914-1918 book.

hope you can help

Pete

Paul Nixon said...

Pete

I can't help with the last three names, but can provide some info on the others:

James William Frederick Wade
Number indicates a joining date of 4th September 1914 – or close to.

2nd Lt Samuel Shorten Arthur Wade
Should be a service record at the National Archives

13449 Private Robert Samuel Wade
Number indicates a joining date of November 1914

9446 Pte Walter James Wade
Joined 3rd October 1912. Discharged as a result of wounds on 22nd January 1915. Pension record survives in WO 364

7597 A/CSM William Augustus Wade
Number indicates a joining date between June and October 1905.

Paul

Anonymous said...

Hello Paul,

Thanks for your help, further to my earlier post I have done a little more digging around and have some further information/revisions:


Company Sergeant Major James William Frederick Wade DCM 3/8434, 3rd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. - He started out in 2nd Bn as Colour Sergeant 2763, who won the DCM (London Gazette 10/09/1901 and 27/09/1901)  and was taken POW at the battle of Zilikats/Nitral's Nek 11/07/1900.
He was also secretary of the POW relief fund in WWI


His siblings/sons

2nd Lt Samuel Shorten Arthur Wade 32409 2nd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. (Died at Kemmel 08/12/1914 - Le Touret Memorial) - his death is mentioned in the 1914-1918 regimental history page 73.

Private Robert Samuel Wade 13449, 2/5th Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. (Died at Battle of Polygon Wood 26/09/1917 - Bridge House Cemetery)

Private Walter James Wade 9446, 1st Bn Lincolnshire Regt. (Discharged 22/01/1915) also regimental court martial 30/07/1914

Acting Company Sergeant Major William Augustus Wade 7597, 1st Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. (Died of wounds 1914 Mons? - Buried Bethune Town Cemetery)

Drummer Boy Joseph Michael Vincent Wade 22800, 3rd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. (Discharged 2nd Bn 4792780, Kurseong, India 11/04/1925)

Acting Colour Sergeant Thomas Patrick Wade 7837, ???Bn Lincolnshire Regiment, then 422604 Labour Corps

Anonymous said...

Hi again Paul,

I got James William Frederick Wade's pension and service records, it seems his original number 2763 is for 30 brigade, enlisting on 27th May 1881 and was then transferred through to Lincolnshire Regt.

Thanks

Peter

Anonymous said...

Sorry Paul,

2nd Lt Samuel Shorten Arthur Wade should be 4191 2nd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt. I gave you his long number

Paul Nixon said...

2nd Lt S S Wade

4191 for the Lincs goes right back to May/June 1895 if that was the number issued from the regular series. The other possibility is that it's a militia number, dating from early 1898, carried over to the 3rd (Special Reserve) Battalion, and the man is then posted to a regular batalion but takes his 3rd Bn number with him. It sounds convoluted but it's a possibility.

Paul Nixon said...

3/8434 James William Frederick Wade. The number certainly indicates 3rd Battalion and the date that I suggested. His older 30th Brigade number was presumably carried onthrough into the Lincs Regt when it was formed in July 1881.

7837 Thomas Patrick Wade. The number indicates aregular enlistment circa Nov 1906, or a Special Reserve enlistment in August 1914.

22800 Joseph M V Wade. The number indicates a joining date of the second half of April 1916.

Quite a family!

Anonymous said...

Hi Paul,

Many thanks for the service number information. The Wade genealogy is proving very interesting on the military front!

I would go with a 1895 enlistment date for 2nd Lt Samuel Shorten Arthur Wade, as the family was not resident in the same county for the Special Reserve enlistment (I'm getting his service record so that will enlighten me).

Acting Colour Sergeant Thomas Patrick Wade's enlistment date is probably a regular one as the family all seem to have enlisted as regular boy soldiers 14-16-ish years old.

Thanks Again

Peter

CrumblyHunter said...

Hi Paul

Can you identify when service number 4379 (Private James Henry Cooke) enlisted into 3 Battalion, Lincolnshire Regiment please?

Thanks

Russell

Paul Nixon said...

Russell

4379 for the 3rd Battalion, if it really is a 3rd Bn enlistment, dates to around Feb 6th/7th 1897 when the 3rd Bn was militia rather than Special Reserve. Does that fit?

Paul

CrumblyHunter said...

Hi Paul

Thank-you for your prompt response.

This does fit. James Henry Cooke is shown in the 1901 census as a Private with this service number in this battalion at Hutment Barracks, Fleetwood, Lanacshaire. From the date that you've given, he would've been about 16 years old at the time of his enlistment.

Paul Day said...

Hi Paul, just like to say that you are doing a stirling job here, well done. Would it be possible to tell me which battalion my Grandfather Joseph.C.Day Lincolnshire Reg. was in. The number on his medals are 50372. Many thanks, Paul Day.

Paul Nixon said...

Thank you Paul. Unfortunately, as far as I am aware, the number in itself does not indicate a specific battalion. I believe the number dates to April 1918 or later and it may be that the medal roll will divulge a battalion. I presume you've checked the pension and service record files on Ancestry?